I moved mine to the garage; replaced it with EcoBee. You can control it locally; even if the power is out via Homekit, and they have an open API so you can integrate it into Home Assistant. Plus it looks alot niced and works slicker.
Google Nest Learning Thermostat (4th Generation)
The Google Nest Learning Thermostat (4th Generation) automatically learns your temperature preferences and builds a schedule without any manual programming, now with a 24-bit color display. Available on Amazon.ca (ASIN B0BPVSSH1Y) at around $329 CAD.
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I'm not putting anymore money into Google products. I'm running the Honeywell Home ProSeries T6 Zwave Thermostats. I installed them a little over a year ago, no issues with them.
The learning "feature" of the Google Nest thermostats is both a joke and pain in the ass. They make it difficult to turn off completely. I gave mine away and bought a Honeywell T6 Pro Z-Wave thermostat. No cloud & no Google! ๐
I have had the 1st version since 2012. It just died on me last week. I upgraded to the 4th Gen....glad I did. It's added a lot, definitely worth it in my book
If you aren't using the hardware interface, I'm not sure why you think it's an important factor. And, I really wonder what elements of the interface you think are actually better on the Nest. The dial interface is clunky and integration with sensors and accessory devices in the HVAC are not nearly as functional. I switched over to Ecobee years ago and still use the Nest at my parent's house, so I experience both regularly.
โ What Works
- Auto-learning is the Nest Learning Thermostat's signature capability and it genuinely works โ within one week, the thermostat observes your adjustments and builds a schedule that reflects when you're actually home and what temperatures you prefer. Most users report setting it once and never touching it again.
- The 4th generation adds a full-color display that shows the current temperature, set point, and ambient conditions at a glance from across the room. The display also shows the current time and weather, making the thermostat useful as a room display rather than just a temperature control.
- Energy History in the Nest app provides detailed heating and cooling usage breakdowns with a leaf icon when you hit energy-efficient temperatures. Google's estimates suggest 10โ15% savings on heating and 15% on cooling โ consistent with third-party studies showing meaningful energy reduction for users who weren't previously on programmable schedules.
- Farsight technology detects when someone approaches and wakes the display to show the current temperature โ a small detail that makes the interface feel polished and responsive rather than passive.
โ ๏ธ Worth Knowing
- The learning feature requires active use to work properly โ the thermostat learns from manual adjustments. Users who rarely change temperatures (set once and leave it) won't see meaningful learning. The auto-schedule only improves when given behavioral data to learn from.
- Nest Temperature Sensors extend remote sensing to multiple rooms but are sold separately at $49 CAD each. For homes with multiple zones or rooms that heat and cool unevenly, the sensor investment adds up quickly and was expected to be included at this price point.
- A C-wire (common wire) is required for stable operation. If your HVAC system doesn't have a C-wire available, Nest includes a Power Connector adapter, but the installation is more involved and may require professional help in some wiring configurations.
- At $329 CAD, this is significantly more expensive than the Google Nest Thermostat at around $149 CAD or the ecobee at around $229 CAD. The additional cost buys the color display and learning capability โ features that are genuinely useful but not essential for all buyers.
The Google Nest Learning Thermostat 4th Gen is the most intuitive smart thermostat for people who don't want to program anything โ it observes your habits and builds a schedule automatically. The color display, learning engine, and Google ecosystem integration are class-leading. The price premium over the ecobee and standard Nest Thermostat is real, and remote sensors being sold separately stings at this price point โ but for Google-first households, it's the best thermostat available.


